Instrumentals of Rock episode #2 Vinnie Moore 2023

Welcome to the Instrumentals of Rock episode #2.  Part of our Then and Now series featuring interviews I did back in the mid-ninties on my syndicated radio show the Instrumentals of Rock.  You can hear the interview I did  with Vinnie Moore back in 1996 on the IOR Podcast episode #1.    

I caught up with Vinnie and found out out he's been up to and we talked about his new album Double Exposure.

Transcript

Mitch:
Okay, all right, so we're on. Vinnie, welcome to the very first Instrumentals of Rock podcast, I appreciate you doing this.

Vinnie:
Thank you, man. It's always good to be a first.

Mitch:
Definitely. this up. Okay, so last time we spoke, I don't know if you remember, but 27 years ago.

Vinnie:
That's crazy.

Mitch:
Yeah, isn't that wild? 1996 and you're out of nowhere album was just coming out.

Vinnie:
Right,

Mitch:
So

Vinnie:
yeah, it

Mitch:
that's

Vinnie:
seems about

Mitch:
why I

Vinnie:
right. I was like two or three years old at the time.

Mitch:
I think so, yeah, I was maybe just a couple years older. Yeah,

Vinnie:
Exactly.

Mitch:
so luckily we have great moms. They let us do a little podcast,

Vinnie:
Right nurtured

Mitch:
a little interview.

Vinnie:
us and we were advanced for our age.

Mitch:
So, what have you been up to since then? No, that was just kind of an easy

Vinnie:
Hehehehehe

Mitch:
lob, but you're still in the same place. You're still in Delaware.

Vinnie:
Yeah, still on the East Coast.

Mitch:
Oh, yeah. And so you've traveled all over the world since we last spoke and done a lot

Vinnie:
Yeah.

Mitch:
of touring and traveling, right? But you,

Vinnie:
I built up the frequent flyer miles for sure.

Mitch:
but you're still in Delaware where you're from. I mean, ever any thoughts about, you know, moving anywhere else or that you've seen or been to?

Vinnie:
Well, you know, I've considered it over the years, especially earlier on in my career, but just got to a point where I was too lazy to do it. And it just didn't feel necessary because I'd be on the road or in the studio, you know, and there was no real reason to do it. So I never

Mitch:
Right,

Vinnie:
made that move.

Mitch:
right. The interview that we did back in 96, I thought it was a really good interview. I really enjoyed it. And like a lot of interviewers, they ask how you first got started, what

Vinnie:
Mm-hmm.

Mitch:
you did, lessons and stuff like that. And you talked about the story where you would just come back from either your first lesson or a few lessons and you said to your mom, Hey, I'm done with this. And she said,

Vinnie:
Oh yeah.

Mitch:
she said, give it another week, Vanny.

Vinnie:
Exactly, yeah, the first lesson was very frustrating. I couldn't even hold the guitar properly.

Mitch:
Right. So,

Vinnie:
It was kind of falling off to the left and.

Mitch:
so you have it all to, you owe your entire career to your mom that you kept on going.

Vinnie:
Yeah, she would be happy to hear that actually. So I think so. I

Mitch:
Yeah.

Vinnie:
was like really frustrated and I was like, okay, I wanna go back to playing drums. And I never really played drums. I had some drumsticks and that was it and a little pad. And I had taken one lesson when I was like nine or something and quit that too. So I was a

Mitch:
Right.

Vinnie:
quitter. But yeah, I wanted to go back to drums and luckily I'd hung in there for a week and I got home. the frustration went away and I picked up the guitar and it's like, all right, let me try some of this stuff. And

Mitch:
Right.

Vinnie:
I started working on the lesson and got good at what I was doing. And I went back and it was like a totally 360 or 180 degree shift, I guess you would

Mitch:
Right,

Vinnie:
say. I'm not sure if you can hear me.

Mitch:
right. Well, kind of the reason I brought that up was the album that we talked about when we did that past interview, there was a lot of family involved in that album. And

Vinnie:
Mm-hmm.

Mitch:
so, you know, with that interview we had, you talked about your mom, you wore your grandpa's jacket on the cover, you had

Vinnie:
Right,

Mitch:
a

Vinnie:
yeah.

Mitch:
song about your grandmother that had just passed, and...

Vinnie:
Exactly. Yeah.

Mitch:
and you almost had a song in your wedding,

Vinnie:
Mm-hmm.

Mitch:
that you had done as well. So your family's a big thing for you. Are you a family guy? Are you, you

Vinnie:
Oh yeah,

Mitch:
have

Vinnie:
totally.

Mitch:
kids?

Vinnie:
And at that point in the 90s, there was just a lot of things going on all at once, like grandparents dying and, you know, as these things happen, you know, and they all seem to happen, you know, simultaneously. And so as a songwriter, you know, I was feeling it and writing about it.

Mitch:
Right? Yeah, I just remember you talking about the one with your grandmother and how you're crying while you were making it and then the thought of

Vinnie:
Mm-hmm.

Mitch:
trying to redo that, you know, it just wasn't going to work. And, you know, the original was the original. So.

Vinnie:
Yeah, sometimes trying to recreate things is like bogus. I mean, you might be in a recording studio and actually get a better, higher quality recording, but to me, I mean, the feel supersedes anything else. That's what's most important. And,

Mitch:
Right.

Vinnie:
you know, trying to create that feel is like, how do you do that again? You know, it's

Mitch:
Yeah.

Vinnie:
kind of crazy.

Mitch:
The other thing that, uh, that you talked about, um, you know, we went through a whole list of the songs and you talked about each of the songs and I asked you about, I asked you about Vin man's brew.

Vinnie:
Mm-hmm.

Mitch:
And, you know, so you told me you were into the microbreweries and everything. And this is, you were ahead of the curve there. Cause that was 96, which,

Vinnie:
Okay?

Mitch:
you know, it was just kind of getting started. Now it's like the big thing, you know, everywhere, all the micro brews and local breweries and so many. independent breweries and everything. Is that something you're still taking part of?

Vinnie:
Well, you know, I went through a phase where I started making my own beer and that was like a lot

Mitch:
Oh really?

Vinnie:
of fun. Yeah, and then I got really busy touring and stuff and I just no longer had the time to do it, but I'd like to do that again. You know, I had a lot of fun making beer.

Mitch:
Were you just making it for yourself in your house or were you thinking about putting it

Vinnie:
No,

Mitch:
out there?

Vinnie:
yeah, just for myself. Like you'd make a couple cases at a time. And,

Mitch:
Yeah.

Vinnie:
you know, it was so enjoyable doing it that when you got to the part where you could drink it, it's almost like you didn't want to drink it because, you know, it'll be all be gone. You know, my beer.

Mitch:
Right. Well, that reminds me, I was going to ask this question later, but it reminds me of, when you talked about, or I read where you, in, I think it was 99, where you opened up for Rush, was, or,

Vinnie:
Oh, that was 92, I believe.

Mitch:
oh, it was earlier. Okay.

Vinnie:
Yeah, it was right when the Meltdown record came out and we were doing the Meltdown tour. Yeah.

Mitch:
So Rush is one of my favorite bands. I saw them 19 times and I just love them. And what was it like opening from any stories about being around them and being on that tour?

Vinnie:
There weren't a whole lot of rush stories because they kind of kept to themselves even though they were really nice guys We hung out

Mitch:
Mm-hmm.

Vinnie:
with them a little bit But you know they kind of kept to themselves One of the things that sticks out in my mind is that they had this big huge production of course So they had like

Mitch:
Right.

Vinnie:
semis and all these tour buses you drive up to the arena And see all these trucks and buses and we were on tour me and my band with a rider truck that the crew was driving. And the band was in a little white minivan, like

Mitch:
Ha!

Vinnie:
some kind of Plymouth or whatever, Dodge Caravan or whatever

Mitch:
Right.

Vinnie:
it was called. And so we drove up, you know, here we come in this little minivan amongst all these trucks and tour buses and drive right into the back of the venue, right up to the backstage door, because everything was so open at this one venue. I can't remember which one it was, but it was just so comical.

Mitch:
Right.

Vinnie:
But I mean, it was such a great experience playing to those big audiences, to the Rush fans and

Mitch:
Right.

Vinnie:
I'm so glad I got to do that. At first it was really nerve wracking because the first two shows were at the spectrum in Philadelphia, which was

Mitch:
Oh, that's

Vinnie:
my home,

Mitch:
right. Yeah.

Vinnie:
the home crowd. And it's like, oh my God, the family's there. And

Mitch:
haha

Vinnie:
it was really nerve wracking, but you just kind of plow through it.

Mitch:
Yeah. Um, well, they just came out with their own beer. I don't know if

Vinnie:
I heard.

Mitch:
you heard, yeah, I haven't tried it. It's, they're now shipping it to the U S but in the beginning, you could only get it in Canada. But, um, I think, you know, Vin Man's brew. I think you need to, uh, you know, put out a couple, some tall boys and, you know.

Vinnie:
That's a good idea. When

Mitch:
Yeah.

Vinnie:
we were on the Roll the Bones tour, and

Mitch:
Oh

Vinnie:
one

Mitch:
yeah.

Vinnie:
of the lyrics is, "'Why are we here? Because we're here.'"

Mitch:
Right.

Vinnie:
And their crew changed it to, "'Why are we here? Because there's beer.'" Let it roll. Let it roll. Not let it roll. Roll the bones.

Mitch:
Right, right. Oh, that's cool. So the other thing, going back to the interview that we did, you talked about influences. One of the things was you talked about your fusion influence and we just lost Jeff Beck and you mentioned how important that was and Larry Carlton, Robin Ford, Aldimio, those guys. Have you ever thought of doing a kind of a fusion album and stepping away a little bit from the style that you've been doing?

Vinnie:
Well, there's always been those elements on my

Mitch:
Right.

Vinnie:
records, you know,

Mitch:
Mm-hmm.

Vinnie:
within songs. And there's even been entire fusion-y songs, like pieces of a picture from the Time Odyssey record. But, you know, I'm honestly trying to move away from the instrumental thing in general and just get more

Mitch:
Okay.

Vinnie:
of a band and a vocal thing together. That's where I want to head. I mean, I've done so many instrumental records, you know, I really would like to do more of a band thing because I have a lot of vocal songs.

Mitch:
All

Vinnie:
and

Mitch:
right.

Vinnie:
kind of explore that for a little bit.

Mitch:
Yeah, and I've been, you know, since we were going to do this interview, I've been listening to all your stuff. And you really have as, it's one of the reasons why I've always liked your music is that it hasn't been the same for each album. And you've always tried to do something a little bit different. And that

Vinnie:
Mm-hmm.

Mitch:
kind of makes sense, you know, you've kind of, I mean, yeah, you could do another instrumental rock record and we'd all love it. But for you as an artist, yeah, that's kind of... you know, been done and you're sort of putting baby steps on it with this album that you just came out with.

Vinnie:
Mm-hmm.

Mitch:
And

Vinnie:
Yeah, you know, that's not really intentional. I just kind of pick up a guitar. I write songs and it just sort of happens. And I can't

Mitch:
Yeah.

Vinnie:
make up my mind what I like. I just like so many different things. And it kind of drives me crazy because I'm getting pulled in different directions. But

Mitch:
Right.

Vinnie:
I just kind of like I don't fight it. I don't resist. I just go along with it.

Mitch:
Yeah. And I think that this new album, I don't think it's ever been done before like that, especially from a, well, I mean, I can't think of any instance where there's been, okay, here's a song and it's instrumental and here's a song and it's vocal. And

Vinnie:
I can't

Mitch:
I just...

Vinnie:
either, so maybe I'm a lot of firsts today. So maybe

Mitch:
Yeah.

Vinnie:
I am one of the first guys to do that.

Mitch:
And when you did that, are they, I mean, I've listened to them like I've A, and B'd them back and forth because I know I've seen other interviews where you talk about, how am I going to do the tracking on it? And

Vinnie:
Mm-hmm.

Mitch:
I think it's great the way that you did it. But I wanted to go back and forth. So, and is it the same instrumental track and then your... going over it with the vocals or are you, did you go in and totally redo one or the other

Vinnie:
Well, it

Mitch:
versions?

Vinnie:
started as the same track and overall I would say, you know, most of the time it is the same, but I changed the arrangements a little bit, you know, to accommodate whatever in the vocalist part. And

Mitch:
Right.

Vinnie:
sometimes I added different parts because the vocal kind of called for, you know, whatever, just a different texture or whatever. So, you know, I would add things that way. And I shortened sections in some of the vocal songs, like in Vertical Horizon, like the sister to that is Astro Man. And it's

Mitch:
Okay.

Vinnie:
got like a long, kind of a funky section before the main guitar solo. And it was just too long for a vocal song. So I kind

Mitch:
Right.

Vinnie:
of cut that down. So, you know,

Mitch:
That's

Vinnie:
little,

Mitch:
cool.

Vinnie:
you know, treatments here and there, but overall pretty much started as being the same.

Mitch:
Yeah. Well, that's cool. I really like it. What's, what's the status on? Are you working on going out with it?

Vinnie:
So far I have a tour lined up for Europe for September and

Mitch:
Oh, okay.

Vinnie:
I wanted to do America first but the timing didn't quite work out so hopefully I'll be able to come back and do that after the

Mitch:
Okay,

Vinnie:
Euro dates.

Mitch:
all right. And so, of course, when you talked about influences back then, you mentioned Trouwer and a bunch of other guys and Michael Schenker as well

Vinnie:
Mm-hmm.

Mitch:
during that interview. And then I guess you opened up for him in 99, was that something around

Vinnie:
Yeah,

Mitch:
there and toured

Vinnie:
yeah,

Mitch:
with

Vinnie:
that

Mitch:
him?

Vinnie:
would have been on the for me the maze tour. And I don't know which record he had at that point. But yeah, we did 32 shows all across America. It

Mitch:
Wow.

Vinnie:
was a lot of fun. We had the same band. And his singer at the time was a guy named Keith slack from Texas. And that's how where I met Keith originally and we became friends and have kept in contact over the years and he sang on the new record. on two

Mitch:
Oh.

Vinnie:
songs, Hummingbird and Paid My Do's. So

Mitch:
Oh cool.

Vinnie:
I have that tour to thank for meeting Keith and finally

Mitch:
Yeah.

Vinnie:
getting to work with him.

Mitch:
Now I know Michael wasn't with UFO at the time, at least I don't think, but I think he kind of went back. Was the connection to UFO have anything to do with that or did that come totally separate?

Vinnie:
Well, I guess in some ways, yeah, because his manager at that time was a guy named Peter Knorn from Hanover, Germany. And then Peter stopped working with Michael and then ironically started managing UFO. So I had

Mitch:
Okay.

Vinnie:
met Peter because he came out on the road for a while. So we got to know one another. So there was that connection. And then there was another guy that was on that tour. who was tour manager and guitar tech for both Michael and I named Jerry Carrillo. And he had also done sound for UFO at one point, front of house. So when they were looking for somebody, they started out in England and were unsuccessful. And then finally tried to open up the search to more of a worldwide thing. And immediately Jerry Carrillo said, you know, gig and then

Mitch:
Right?

Vinnie:
of course, Peter, their manager is like, yeah, I know Vinny, you know, I met him when we were on the Fini Moore Michael Shanker tour. So,

Mitch:
Haha

Vinnie:
so there were a couple connections to that. Yeah.

Mitch:
Nice. So when you got that, it must be in the beginning when you hadn't done any new material yet with the band. It must have been such an honor to be able to play those songs that you grew up listening to and that were so great and

Vinnie:
Exactly,

Mitch:
to be able to

Vinnie:
yeah.

Mitch:
tour with those.

Vinnie:
Yeah,

Mitch:
And

Vinnie:
I mean, I used to listen to those songs in my bedroom and play guitar with the songs. So yeah, it was kind of surreal in a lot of ways.

Mitch:
And going back again, I keep going back to parts of the other interview, but you literally said if I ever find the right singer to write with, I think a vocal project would be great. And

Vinnie:
Uh huh.

Mitch:
then, you know, you hook up with Phil and,

Vinnie:
Right.

Mitch:
you know, were you initially hired as just a guitar player or was it with the idea? of writing songs or did that just kind of naturally happen with you and Phil?

Vinnie:
No, that's the good thing about that opportunity is that Phil was looking for a guy to be a songwriter. That's what he always had, a guitar player that could play and write songs and contribute in that manner. So that's what

Mitch:
Right.

Vinnie:
he wanted. So lucky for me, I didn't join the band. It's just some hired hand that went on tour with them. The first

Mitch:
Mm-hmm.

Vinnie:
order of business was doing a new record and

Mitch:
Okay.

Vinnie:
he wanted to hear my, he wanted to hear my material. And in fact,

Mitch:
Ugh.

Vinnie:
he liked, he liked a bunch of the songs that I had originally sent him, you know, for my auditions, or whatever you want to call it. And

Mitch:
Right.

Vinnie:
he wanted to do some of those. So they ended up on the first record actually on the You Are Your record.

Mitch:
Wow. And so you've you ended up at this point. You've done six, I think, studio records or something like that

Vinnie:
Yeah,

Mitch:
with UFO.

Vinnie:
sounds about right.

Mitch:
And it's how is, you know, how's the process with you and Phil when you write songs?

Vinnie:
Um, usually he likes you to send him your ideas. So like Paul was an active writer. I was a writer and so Paul and I would just like, you know, lock ourselves up in a room, so to speak, and, and work on ideas. And then we would actually record them, make, you know, demos and just hit Phil with a bunch of songs. And

Mitch:
Okay.

Vinnie:
then Phil would kind of listen and kind of pick the ones he liked the best or the ones he was most inspired by. And then, you know, He would choose, you know, whatever. I think I would send sometimes like 15, 20 songs to him. Paul would usually have a good 10 or 12. And then, you know, we just kind of sift through them. We'd eventually get together in Germany at a rehearsal studio and kind of start deciding on, you know, which 10 we were gonna actually choose for the record.

Mitch:
Right. And did you know, did he write the lyrics after hearing the music or would he

Vinnie:
It's...

Mitch:
already have stuff?

Vinnie:
Oh no, he definitely writes lyrics last minute, unfortunately

Mitch:
Ha

Vinnie:
for

Mitch:
ha

Vinnie:
us sometimes,

Mitch:
ha

Vinnie:
because we don't even know what he's going to end up doing. He

Mitch:
Wow.

Vinnie:
doesn't really sing at these rehearsals I mentioned. He sits there with a notepad and a pencil and just listens to the band. And

Mitch:
Yeah.

Vinnie:
so you have no idea what he's going to do, and you end up going in the studio and you lay down the song. And then it's not until you get like a first rough mix that you go, oh yeah, okay. Not, you know,

Mitch:
Oh wow.

Vinnie:
I didn't know even know what he was gonna be doing. Oh, that's it.

Mitch:
Yeah. And so, is there, what's the latest as far as UFO at the moment?

Vinnie:
Yeah,

Mitch:
Any

Vinnie:
it's

Mitch:
news?

Vinnie:
kind of up in the air, just kind of waiting around, not, I mean, not waiting around, but waiting to see if there's gonna be more shows maybe next year and,

Mitch:
Mm-hmm.

Vinnie:
you know, who knows, you know, it would be great

Mitch:
Yeah.

Vinnie:
if there were some, so we kind of end it on a more proper note, but we'll see, I'm not counting on it, I'm just going about doing my own stuff.

Mitch:
Right.

Vinnie:
And, you know, if it does happen, it'll, you know, it'll be a nice thing.

Mitch:
Yeah. And in the late 90s in your career, was that a thought of joining an established band? Or is that just something that, you know, I mean, what was your career mindset like, say in 96, as far as when you thought about what your career was going to be and the direction you were heading in?

Vinnie:
Well, I mean, everything was in the open for me. If like an opportunity came up, you know, that was one potential thing that would be, I was thinking would be great to do, you know, getting my own band together, making my own records. Like it was, everything was there in my mind, you know?

Mitch:
right.

Vinnie:
And luckily that kind of came up and turned out to be a really, really good thing. That was like, you know, pretty long-term actually. It turned out to be 20 years.

Mitch:
Yeah, that's pretty amazing. And when you set up for UFO, when your guitar set up for UFO, and then your guitar set up for yourself when you're doing something live, is there a big difference as far as what you have, guitars you use? Do you

Vinnie:
Not

Mitch:
adjust

Vinnie:
really,

Mitch:
your sound much?

Vinnie:
not a whole lot actually. I mean, I just kind of do my sound and that's what it is. I

Mitch:
Okay.

Vinnie:
mean, there are certain songs where I might record with a certain effect or whatever in the studio. So if I go out and do that song live, I'll have to bring that effect out on the road so I can

Mitch:
Mm-hmm.

Vinnie:
kind of recreate the recording, but it doesn't change a whole lot actually. It's pretty similar.

Mitch:
Okay. And the, you've had your own record label that, so you've been producing your own records. Is that, do I have that right?

Vinnie:
Yeah, I have three out now on Minds Eye Music, which is my own label.

Mitch:
Okay.

Vinnie:
And I almost did that for the one before that, which was called To The Core, that

Mitch:
Mm-hmm.

Vinnie:
preceded the three. And because I recorded at home and totally finished the record, and it was 100% finished, and then I got a label after the fact, and I almost like self-released it back then, and kind of wish I did, but you know, eventually I got to it. the point, which is great because it's total freedom and I can do what I want.

Mitch:
Right. And then you have somebody else distributed or are you still, are you, I know, I know the record

Vinnie:
Yeah.

Mitch:
industry and the whole world has changed so much, you know, in the past 27 years, but,

Vinnie:
Yeah, I have

Mitch:
um,

Vinnie:
some different distributors in different countries, and then a company that does the digital stuff, which is worldwide.

Mitch:
Right,

Vinnie:
So

Mitch:
sure.

Vinnie:
yeah, so there's two different avenues as far as that goes.

Mitch:
Yeah.

Vinnie:
Some people wanna actually hold the disc in their hand

Mitch:
Right.

Vinnie:
and read the lyrics, and some people don't care. They just wanna hear it digitally.

Mitch:
Yeah, have you been doing vinyl at all?

Vinnie:
I haven't yet, it's something I've been thinking about.

Mitch:
Mm-hmm.

Vinnie:
At this point, it's really expensive to make,

Mitch:
Yeah,

Vinnie:
you

Mitch:
I'll

Vinnie:
know,

Mitch:
have a look.

Vinnie:
but it would be something cool to just have some vinyl

Mitch:
Yeah,

Vinnie:
for sure.

Mitch:
maybe do a package deal where you get like a six pack of, you know, Vin Man's brew and the vinyl package,

Vinnie:
That sounds like,

Mitch:
you know.

Vinnie:
yeah, you might get too drunk. I mean, it could be a good thing, because, you know, if they drink the beer and then they're more inclined to like the record. So it'll be, you know, more favorable for me.

Mitch:
Um, I read where, uh, you use, uh, if you know, variety of different guitars on the new album and, uh, one of them was the, uh, Gibson splatter guitar that was made for you. Um, back in the day, does that

Vinnie:
Oh,

Mitch:
ring a bell?

Vinnie:
Ibanez,

Mitch:
Oh, Ibanez.

Vinnie:
the Ibanez

Mitch:
Okay.

Vinnie:
splatter.

Mitch:
Sorry. Okay.

Vinnie:
Yeah, well, this is my signature model back in the late 80s, I believe, when I was with

Mitch:
Okay.

Vinnie:
Ibanez. And I have two of them. I have a white one and the splatter one. They're just kind of sitting in cases in a bedroom closet. And one of my friends, Jamie Humphries, who's a guitar player and kind of does interviews like this one, you know, asked me about it. And he... actually asked me in advance of an interview and so I went and I found it and I brought it into my studio and I was able to show it because it seems people are interested in that guitar for whatever reason. So I kind of got to show it and then it was in the studio here. So I was like, hey, let's try it for a solo. And I

Mitch:
Right.

Vinnie:
ended up using it on one of the solos.

Mitch:
And there was only 25 made. Is that something like

Vinnie:
Um,

Mitch:
that?

Vinnie:
it's

Mitch:
Really

Vinnie:
like

Mitch:
small.

Vinnie:
maybe it might, it might've been 25 white and 25 splatter, 50 total.

Mitch:
Oh, okay,

Vinnie:
Yeah.

Mitch:
right.

Vinnie:
So there's not many of them out there.

Mitch:
And all the splatters or is it a different splatter for everyone? Okay.

Vinnie:
Yeah, I mean, they literally just like got some paint, dipped something in it, and kind of splattered the guitar with different colors. So

Mitch:
Wow.

Vinnie:
it's kind of each one is, you know, whatever came out, came out.

Mitch:
It'd be interesting to know where they all ended up. You

Vinnie:
Yeah,

Mitch:
know, where

Vinnie:
I mean,

Mitch:
the rest

Vinnie:
I see

Mitch:
of

Vinnie:
them

Mitch:
them.

Vinnie:
from time to time online. Some people have them and I've seen them come up for sale at times.

Mitch:
Right. So when you, when you clock out of the Vinymore guitar rock shift and at the end of the day or the end of the week, what, what do you like to do? I saw on Facebook, you're at a baseball game.

Vinnie:
Yeah.

Mitch:
So you're a baseball fan.

Vinnie:
Yeah, I'm a big

Mitch:
And

Vinnie:
sports fan in general, but yeah, I like to go see the Phillies a couple times, few times a year and I went for the first time two weeks ago. And so I pay attention to that. And luckily, last year they were in the World Series. So it was definitely a good year. And

Mitch:
Nice.

Vinnie:
I go to the gym a lot, just try to keep in shape, you know, work out like usually five days a week. And

Mitch:
Yeah.

Vinnie:
I mean, that's pretty much it, actually. Go out with friends,

Mitch:
Uh,

Vinnie:
you know, just your normal,

Mitch:
yeah.

Vinnie:
typical boring stuff.

Mitch:
And do you have kids or?

Vinnie:
Yeah, I have two boys. They're older now in their mid-20s.

Mitch:
Alright, great. And read books. Are you a book reader?

Vinnie:
Um, I used to be a little bit more than I am now. I tend to read things online a lot,

Mitch:
Mm-hmm.

Vinnie:
but not really books. Just

Mitch:
Yeah.

Vinnie:
little things that catch my interest here and there.

Mitch:
Yeah. All right. Well, I think that's probably gonna do it. This is the first one I've done. And you know, I had this show back in the mid 90s.

Vinnie:
Mm-hmm.

Mitch:
I did 137 of the shows.

Vinnie:
So

Mitch:
One

Vinnie:
you

Mitch:
hour

Vinnie:
have the

Mitch:
week.

Vinnie:
second coming here.

Mitch:
The second coming, yeah. And it took me awhile to figure out what I was gonna do with all the interviews. And so I'm gonna do a kind of a mix of. old interview, new interview, and I'm working on a show that's gonna... I just saw a compilation album of James Brown and Marvin Gaye, two separate albums,

Vinnie:
Oh, wow.

Mitch:
and they were all instrumental tracks that they had done. And so

Vinnie:
No kidding.

Mitch:
it's the Marvin Gaye band and it's all instrumental with Marvin playing on there too. And the same with James Brown and

Vinnie:
So

Mitch:
where

Vinnie:
I could

Mitch:
he's

Vinnie:
get that and like

Mitch:
playing

Vinnie:
do karaoke like, Hey!

Mitch:
Yeah,

Vinnie:
Wanna kiss myself?

Mitch:
exactly.

Vinnie:
Fellas, when I count it off, one, two, three, four, can we hit it and quit it?

Mitch:
Exactly. So it's gonna be that. So see if we can kind of go back also to the history of instrumental rock from the 50s and 60s and stuff like that.

Vinnie:
Oh, very cool, man. That sounds awesome. I wish you a lot of luck and success with it.

Mitch:
All right, thanks a lot. And when I get this uploaded and going, I'll let you know and we can do some, you know, you can let all your listeners and social media people know that it's on. It'll be on all the podcast platforms. So.

Vinnie:
Absolutely, I will do so.

Mitch:
All right, man. Thanks a lot. Appreciate

Vinnie:
Okay,

Mitch:
your time.

Vinnie:
thanks for having me on, man. I totally appreciate being the first guy and

Mitch:
Yeah,

Vinnie:
awesome.

Mitch:
right on. Thanks.

Vinnie:
All right,

Mitch:
Okay,

Vinnie:
talk to

Mitch:
man.

Vinnie:
you again, man. Not in 27 years though, hopefully

Mitch:
No,

Vinnie:
sooner.

Mitch:
let's try to do it sooner.

Vinnie:
Okay, next year.

Mitch:
Okay. Sounds good.

Vinnie:
Okay, thanks, man.

Mitch:
All right. See you.